Re: <nettime> Never use 1 word where 0 words will do

I really hope we can avoid reenacting twitter-type debates in which a bunch of guys propose clear explanations when, as David points out, no one knows or understands anything.

The dominant coverage has reduced this to a hypermacho PRIGOZHIN VS PUTIN boxing match, which I’m fairly certain misses many if not most of the key dynamics.

Just one example: Eric Draitser argued a month ago that the structural failures of the Putinist economy would all but require a new round of privatization, which would be *deeply* unpopular but necessary to keep oligarchic milieus on board:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6LgdpvU_UOk&pp=ygUbZXJpYyBkcmFpdHNlciBwcml2YXRpemF0aW9u

My hunch: the effort to shut down Wagner had a few goals, including minimizing Prigozhin’s power and carving up his assets for redistribution. That could be way off, and even if it’s sharp it still focuses power, “heroic” figures, etc.

A useful comparison: the endless noise about a sunken submersible full of wealthy thrill-seekers vs several hundred unnamed migrants downing.

I think there are people on this list who could shed light on the situation but might be reluctant to do so openly. Certainly, there are a *lot* of people with direct experience with that kind of tension. I hope we can find ways to have discussions that are hard to find in other contexts. Isn’t that one if the stated reasons for keeping the list going?

On Jun 26, 2023 at 5:11 AM -0400, David Garcia via Nettime-tmp <nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org>, wrote:

8 hours of wall to wall expert deliberation on the alleged Russian
mutiny appears to have reached that rare thing, a shared universal
conclusion. "We Know Noooothing"!
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