Felix Stalder via Nettime-tmp on Sat, 27 May 2023 11:50:37 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> process reporting?


hi everyone,

On 26.05.23 16:53, John Hopkins via Nettime-tmp wrote:
Will we hear anything more about the processes that are perhaps going
on in the background? This may be a task for the new moderators, to
let subscribers know what's going on ...

there isn't really a process at this point. So let's try to establish one.

* We had to move nettime away from kein.org, after being generously supported by kein.org and Florian Schneider in particular for an extremely long time, because Google blocked kein in nasty ways and we couldn't fix it easily. Email is a pain these days and Google regards spoofing headers (which is, technically, what mailman does) as spam by default. If you happen to one of the blocked accounts, you can read here what you were missing:

https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-2305/threads.html


* tl'dr version: We (Ted Byfield and myself) announced that after 15 years, we were longer willing to maintain the list and would either hand it over to people who can do the technical task of hosting and social task of janitoring (nettime hasn't been moderated for subscribers for many years, but still needs care), or close down the list.

* There seems to be a consensus that the list still holds value (which I share) so closing it seems not the best option.

* A few people came forward to say that, in very general terms, they (or others!) would be contribute, but that hasn't coalesced into anything concrete.

* As far as I can tell, the most concrete offer came from The Waag for hosting the list and the web-archive. But maybe Henk can say something about this?

* Thanks to the support of Luka Frelih, we are now hosted by Ljudmila which couldn't be better.

* But as the name of the list indicates, this is only a temporary solution. While Luka hasn't imposed a deadline, I will: end of June.

* So, we have about one month to find a new technical infrastructure for the list (2000 subscribers as of now) and the webarchive (mid 1990s MHonArc), and a new team of janitors. Both aspects, the technical and the social, are not very difficult or onerous, but they require continuous attention and long-term care. I'm happy to elaborate what that meant so far, if somebody cares.

So, let's get this done and let's do it on the list.



all the best. Felix





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