Geoffrey Goodell on Thu, 15 Dec 2022 22:08:29 +0100 (CET)


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Re: <nettime> Moving Nettime to the Fediverse


Dear Allan and all,

The wishful thinking on the part of the list maintainers was:

(a) that they would be forgiven for growing weary of running the service; AND

(b) that they would also continue to enjoy the self-gratification from
volunteering to provide infrastructure support to the community.

The inconvenient reality is that they cannot have both (a) and (b).

So, I suggest that we identify new list maintainers; after all, we all knew
that time for a successor would eventually come.  If this is just a matter of
configuring and running mailman3 on one of my mail servers, then I am happy to
do it myself, although I suspect that there are others here who are more
appropriate for the task.

Suggest that we create a committee of volunteers to receive the knowledge of
how to run the list (e.g.: the list of email addresses and their settings, the
mailman configuration files, the historical archive, and so on) and decide who
should do what.  Whether or not this makes some people uncomfortable, Nettime
has become a de facto institution and requires an institutional approach.

Best wishes --

Geoff

On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 10:07:16AM +0100, Allan Siegel wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I think Mastodon has certain things going for it but the experience is very
> different from the Nettime LIST...
> 
> The group who orchestrated the change in environments should have prepared
> users for the change and described a framework on how this change could
> work. To suddenly basically dissolve one community and imagine it will just
> reappear someplace else involves some wishful thinking.
> 
> best
> 
> allan
> 
> 
> On 12/14/22 17:18, Miklos Peternak wrote:
> > dear all,
> > 
> > from someone who rarely post to the list, but follows it almost since
> > the beginnig -?? as andreas was accurate, i only join him now:
> > 
> > On 2022. 12. 06. 21:20, Andreas Broeckmann wrote:
> > > , i know that for me personally the move of nettime away from e-mail
> > > would mean that i would, after 25+ years, probably lose the
> > > connection. like others here, e-mail is the medium i like for this
> > > kind of communication, and i don't see myself scrolling through
> > 
> > > (...)
> > &
> > > 
> > > i know that simplicity and longevity are not values in themselves,
> > 
> > i do think, these are values - but agree, there are more values on earth,
> > 
> > by than, to all,
> > 
> > & my very bests,
> > 
> > miklos
> > 
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