Stefan Heidenreich on Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:26:06 +0100 (CET)


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it's a double bind + cognitive dissonance problem:

for most western intellectuals, after years of fighting for the right causes (which I also supported and keep supporting) it is very difficult to realize that one has been gaslighted as useful idiot for the military-industrial complex.


Am 17.03.2022 um 18:06 schrieb Miro Visic:
So nettime turned into NATO shit list.

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    Today's Topics:

        1. Re: Irregular Ukraine Linklist (Ted Byfield)
        2. Re: Irregular Ukraine Linklist (Stefan Heidenreich)
        3. More Ukraine links (Michael Benson)



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    From: Ted Byfield <tedbyfield@gmail.com <mailto:tedbyfield@gmail.com>>
    To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org <mailto:nettime-l@mail.kein.org>
    Cc:
    Bcc:
    Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 07:05:58 -0400
    Subject: Re: <nettime> Irregular Ukraine Linklist
    On 16 Mar 2022, at 4:45, Stefan Heidenreich wrote:

     > add this: Former senior advisor the Secretary of Defense Col.
    Doug Macgregor on the situation in Ukraine and Washington:

    It seems strange to see this on nettime.

    Macgregor is a Putin apologist who's called Zelensky a "puppet,"
    accused him of using the Ukrainian people as "human shields,"
    described the wanton destruction as "surprisingly little damage,"
    and argued that the Russian military should have been *more* violent
    in the opening days of the war. He's a fixture on Fox News because
    he makes hosts like Tucker Carlson sound moderate.

    The Secretary of Defense that Macgregor advised (for a few months)
    was Chris Miller, who Trump installed just days after losing the
    election as part of a larger purge of mil/intel leadership. There's
    good reason to think that Macgregor actively involved in Trump’s
    attempted coup.

     From Wikipedia on Macgregor’s failed nomination (by Trump) to be
    ambassador to Germany:

     > He has asserted that Muslim immigrants (referred to as "Muslim
    invaders") come to Europe "with the goal of eventually turning
    Europe into an Islamic state". Macgregor has argued that the German
    concept of Vergangenheitsbewältigung, used to cope with Germany's
    Nazi past and its atrocities during World War II, is a "sick
    mentality." Macgregor has also stated that martial law should be
    instituted on the U.S.-Mexico border and argued for the
    extrajudicial execution of those who cross the border at unofficial
    ports of entry. Macgregor has also made statements in support of
    Israel having defensible borders, the annexation of the Golan
    Heights, and the decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. In
    a column in The Washington Post he was described as "a racist
    crackpot who is pro-Russia, anti-Merkel, anti-Muslim and anti-Mexican."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor?wprov=sfti1
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor?wprov=sfti1>

    Admittedly, Wikipedia is a problematic source — in this case because
    it understates Macgregor's extremism. His view that Ukraine should
    serve as a "neutral" buffer between NATO/EU and RU is consistent
    with his advocacy for summary executions of undocumented migrants at
    the US/Mex border: he doesn't like change, and he's happy to
    exchange others' lives en masse to prevent it.

    Your suggestion that the INC should add some random rightist-noise
    YT video to their list of practical Ukraine resources seems a
    bit...tone-deaf?

    Ted




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    From: Stefan Heidenreich <mail@stefanheidenreich.de
    <mailto:mail@stefanheidenreich.de>>
    To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org <mailto:nettime-l@mail.kein.org>
    Cc:
    Bcc:
    Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 12:50:48 +0100
    Subject: Re: <nettime> Irregular Ukraine Linklist
    Hi Ted, I'm totally with you on one point: Macgregor is very doubtful
    and uttered a lot of terrible political nonsense. He comes from
    military, after all. I also detest his political views.

    But: what if his assessment of the military situation on the ground and
    of the political situation in Washington DC is correct?

    Could it be, that, following a progressive-liberal flag, we've been led
    by the military-industrial complex and the donor class into a hellhole?
    I think it definitely merits to give a second thought to his
    possibility.

    The issue at stake is:
    - how can we terminate this war as quickly as possible?
    - how can we save Europa from being turned into the battlefield between
    NATO and Russia/China?
    (Maybe not by following the calls of the military-complex fake
    liberalism)

    for that matter: if there is only a glimpse of truth in what Macgregor
    says, one should think very careful about whom and what to support.

    s

    Am 16.03.2022 um 12:05 schrieb Ted Byfield:
     > On 16 Mar 2022, at 4:45, Stefan Heidenreich wrote:
     >
     >> add this: Former senior advisor the Secretary of Defense Col.
    Doug Macgregor on the situation in Ukraine and Washington:
     >
     > It seems strange to see this on nettime.
     >
     > Macgregor is a Putin apologist who's called Zelensky a "puppet,"
    accused him of using the Ukrainian people as "human shields,"
    described the wanton destruction as "surprisingly little damage,"
    and argued that the Russian military should have been *more* violent
    in the opening days of the war. He's a fixture on Fox News because
    he makes hosts like Tucker Carlson sound moderate.
     >
     > The Secretary of Defense that Macgregor advised (for a few
    months) was Chris Miller, who Trump installed just days after losing
    the election as part of a larger purge of mil/intel leadership.
    There's good reason to think that Macgregor actively involved in
    Trump’s attempted coup.
     >
     >  From Wikipedia on Macgregor’s failed nomination (by Trump) to be
    ambassador to Germany:
     >
     >> He has asserted that Muslim immigrants (referred to as "Muslim
    invaders") come to Europe "with the goal of eventually turning
    Europe into an Islamic state". Macgregor has argued that the German
    concept of Vergangenheitsbewältigung, used to cope with Germany's
    Nazi past and its atrocities during World War II, is a "sick
    mentality." Macgregor has also stated that martial law should be
    instituted on the U.S.-Mexico border and argued for the
    extrajudicial execution of those who cross the border at unofficial
    ports of entry. Macgregor has also made statements in support of
    Israel having defensible borders, the annexation of the Golan
    Heights, and the decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. In
    a column in The Washington Post he was described as "a racist
    crackpot who is pro-Russia, anti-Merkel, anti-Muslim and anti-Mexican."
     >
     > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor?wprov=sfti1
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor?wprov=sfti1>
     >
     > Admittedly, Wikipedia is a problematic source — in this case
    because it understates Macgregor's extremism. His view that Ukraine
    should serve as a "neutral" buffer between NATO/EU and RU is
    consistent with his advocacy for summary executions of undocumented
    migrants at the US/Mex border: he doesn't like change, and he's
    happy to exchange others' lives en masse to prevent it.
     >
     > Your suggestion that the INC should add some random
    rightist-noise YT video to their list of practical Ukraine resources
    seems a bit...tone-deaf?
     >
     > Ted
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    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Michael Benson <kinpix2001@gmail.com
    <mailto:kinpix2001@gmail.com>>
    To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org <mailto:nettime-l@mail.kein.org>
    Cc:
    Bcc:
    Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:46:42 -0400
    Subject: <nettime> More Ukraine links
    Emergency funding to Ukrainian journalists (administered by
    independent UA news outlet Zaborna Media)
    https://2402.org/#donate <https://2402.org/#donate>

    Ukrainian Red Cross
    https://donate.redcrossredcrescent.org/ua/donate/~my-donation?_cv=1
    <https://donate.redcrossredcrescent.org/ua/donate/~my-donation?_cv=1>

    Razom, an organization providing humanitarian relief in Ukraine
    https://razomforukraine.org/razom-emergency-response/
    <https://razomforukraine.org/razom-emergency-response/>

    Support independent Russian reporters through Meduza, operating from
    Riga
    https://support.meduza.io/en <https://support.meduza.io/en>

    Homo Faber, Polish NGO helping house and feed Ukrainian refugees
    from Lublin
    http://hf.org.pl/ao/index.php?id=2565
    <http://hf.org.pl/ao/index.php?id=2565>

    Twitter lists

    Anglophone Russia (Russia experts and correspondents)
    https://twitter.com/i/lists/43845512
    <https://twitter.com/i/lists/43845512>

    2022 Ukraine Crises (diplomats, analysts, etc)
    https://twitter.com/i/lists/1494877848087187461
    <https://twitter.com/i/lists/1494877848087187461>

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            1. Irregular Ukraine Linklist (Geert Lovink)
            2. Re: Irregular Ukraine Linklist (Stefan Heidenreich)


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        Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:08:10 +0100
        From: Geert Lovink <geert@xs4all.nl <mailto:geert@xs4all.nl>>
        To: a moderated mailing list for net criticism
                 <nettime-l@mail.kein.org <mailto:nettime-l@mail.kein.org>>
        Subject: <nettime> Irregular Ukraine Linklist
        Message-ID: <B991A5C2-A648-47E4-B9A7-7DBE7FABFFD7@xs4all.nl
        <B991A5C2-A648-47E4-B9A7-7DBE7FABFFD7@xs4all.nl">mailto:B991A5C2-A648-47E4-B9A7-7DBE7FABFFD7@xs4all.nl>>
        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

        Compiled for/by INC Ukraine page and more tech meets tactical
        media initiatives
        https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/
        <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/>
        <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/
        <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/>>

        Donation campaign for Ukranian media
        https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going
        <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going>
        <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going
        <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going>>

        Send text messages from your phones directly to randomly
        selected Russians
        https://1920.in/ <https://1920.in/> <https://1920.in/
        <https://1920.in/>>

        Via INURA (thanks to Patrice):
        https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war
        <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war>
        <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war
        <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war>>

        Contacts for Ukrainians (via Janos Sugar)
        https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/
        <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/>
        <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/
        <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/>>

        Tools for communicating offline and in difficult circumstance
        (via Maja van der Velden)
        https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances
        <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances>
        <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances
        <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances>>

        Liberal-conservative America discussing China?s role: Kaiser Kuo
        in conversation with Evan Feigenbaum (via Ned Rossiter)
        https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/
        <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/>
        <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/
        <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/>>

        Online Russian Anti-War Petitions collection: ?In the name of the
        Russian people, but against our will?: Russian voices against
        Russia?s
        war in Ukraine:
        https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8
        <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8>
        <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8
        <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8>>

        Links from Micheal Dieter:

        Recording of 'Ukrainian Dispatch - Solidarity as Cultural Praxis
        during Wartime' event at bbk berlin, March 14th 2022 - Panelists /
        Speakers: Vasyl Cherepanyn (director of the Visual Culture Research
        Center (VCRC, Kyiv), Nikita Kadan (artist), Maria Isserlis
        (curator),
        Marina Naprushkina (artist, founder of Neue Nachbarschaft/ Moabit),
        Clemens von Wedemeyer (artist Berlin).
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik
        <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik>
        <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik
        <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik>>

        Institute of Strategic Dialogue (ISD) report, Support from the
        Conspiracy Corner: German-Language Disinformation about the Russian
        Invasion of Ukraine on Telegram:
        https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/
        <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/>
        <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/
        <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/>>

        Report on Websites Blocked in Russia Since Ukraine Invasion:
        https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/
        <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/>
        <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/
        <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/>>

        Global VPN use, live tracker - Russia: VPN demand increase: 2,088%
        (peak), Dates: February 24-March 13; Ukraine: VPN demand increase:
        609% (peak); Dates: February 15-March 9 -
        https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/
        <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/>
        <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/
        <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/>>
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        From: Stefan Heidenreich <mail@stefanheidenreich.de
        <mailto:mail@stefanheidenreich.de>>
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        Subject: Re: <nettime> Irregular Ukraine Linklist
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<6dae2328-e7bd-fd51-dd8a-8d8376b02715@stefanheidenreich.de
        <6dae2328-e7bd-fd51-dd8a-8d8376b02715@stefanheidenreich.de">mailto:6dae2328-e7bd-fd51-dd8a-8d8376b02715@stefanheidenreich.de>>
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        add this: Former senior advisor the Secretary of Defense Col. Doug
        Macgregor on the situation in Ukraine and Washington:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFngc_8RiVc
        <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFngc_8RiVc>


        Am 16.03.2022 um 09:08 schrieb Geert Lovink:
         > Compiled for/by INC Ukraine page and more tech meets tactical
        media
         > initiatives
         > https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/
        <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/>
         > <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/
        <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/>>
         >
         > Donation campaign for Ukranian media
         > https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going
        <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going>
         > <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going
        <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going>>
         >
         > Send text messages from your phones directly to randomly
        selected Russians
         > https://1920.in/ <https://1920.in/> <https://1920.in/
        <https://1920.in/>>
         >
         > Via INURA (thanks to Patrice):
         > https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war
        <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war>
         > <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war
        <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war>>
         >
         > Contacts for Ukrainians (via Janos Sugar)
         > https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/
        <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/>
         > <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/
        <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/>>
         >
         > Tools for communicating offline and in difficult circumstance
        (via Maja
         > van der Velden)
         >
        https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances
        <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances>

         >
        <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances
        <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances>>
         >
         > Liberal-conservative America discussing China?s role: Kaiser
        Kuo in
         > conversation with Evan Feigenbaum (via Ned Rossiter)
         >
        https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/
        <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/>

         >
        <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/
        <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/>>
         >
         > Online Russian Anti-War Petitions collection: ?In the name of the
         > Russian people, but against our will?: Russian voices against
        Russia?s
         > war in Ukraine:
         >
        https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8
        <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8>

         >
        <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8
        <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8>>
         >
         > Links from Micheal Dieter:
         >
         > Recording of 'Ukrainian Dispatch - Solidarity as Cultural Praxis
         > during Wartime' event at bbk berlin, March 14th 2022 -
        Panelists /
         > Speakers: Vasyl Cherepanyn (director of the Visual Culture
        Research
         > Center (VCRC, Kyiv), Nikita Kadan (artist), Maria Isserlis
        (curator),
         > Marina Naprushkina (artist, founder of Neue Nachbarschaft/
        Moabit),
         > Clemens von Wedemeyer (artist Berlin).
         > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik
        <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik>
         > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik
        <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik>>
         >
         > Institute of Strategic Dialogue (ISD) report, Support from the
         > Conspiracy Corner: German-Language Disinformation about the
        Russian
         > Invasion of Ukraine on Telegram:
         >
        https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/
        <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/>

         >
        <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/
        <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/>>
         >
         > Report on Websites Blocked in Russia Since Ukraine Invasion:
         > https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/
        <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/>
         >
        <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/
        <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/>>
         >
         > Global VPN use, live tracker - Russia: VPN demand increase:
        2,088%
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