Marine DaughterOfthePirate on Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:26:38 +0100 (CET)


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Re: <nettime> nettime-l Digest, Vol 174, Issue 42


Hi Miro,

i have posted about how control society
requires to mark out people agenda
by different ways, allowing people
to think according to an agenda that is not
yours, when you don’t « think from your self »
what is interesting is thus:
how would one become able to think from one self?
the history of mankind since Lascaux South West cro-magnon France up to net time can document the archeology of mankinds endeavour to
miss or seize an opportunity to think by and from one self.
you can be passive at first, following the news, the succesion of threads on internet...
but like Proust you can have a Will, in you, to one day be able to sift what can make you able to seize, from what can in contrario miss, and from this growing tool in your (plastic) brain, connect as soon as you could, with what in You might thrust you to another kind of « activity » (the goal of having a brain)

Brian Holmes brilliantly exposed this in the post that he sent to a correspondant just a day after my « guide your self from your self and do not let others think your world » post last february here.
He exposed a documentary, its structure, its analysis of the wheels of capital-wealth hunting hell, and reminded us what was important had escaped the documentary’s director: what was important was the («non-temporal, y-king, .. China») experience inside of which were situated the reflexions of the director.
Maybe the director, Brian was trying to suggest, should reconnect with the experience in which his thought were rambling.

As a conclusion: i would say: in this Nato versus Russia, China, Brics miscomprehension, what can be our singular experience as writers or directors?
to each of the thinkers of what is actually happening to humanity? what can be a singular experience,
to each of the thinkers making cartographies describing what should happen
to the other human thinkers and the other humans experimentators of this weird Nato-Brics miscomprehension (mutual different)
?
is it in any sense helping other singular experience to do a cartography of what is happening really?
(i say this on the base that the thinker (or the experimentator) has or can have (can develop by art or science) a human natural desire to care and to enrich the other humans: thrusting them in a collective experience that is different from the singular experience, also different from the weirdness (cfr « The Weird and the Eerie » by Mark Fisher) which this mutual different exposes us to, but nevertheless new future experience: important for extending and increasing our multiple singular experiences of life on our dear planet the Earth)

Well anyway i would encourage anyone on internet to follow Brian Holmes idea on becoming interested by the study of the experiences made by the writers, the thinker, like his psychology, his phenomenological idiosyncrasy, translated in words not only but also in metaphors, signs, images of all kinds, sounds in the case of documentaries.
Also the notion of fragmentary experience (in singular people but also plurial people) fragmentary due to autonomy of internet versus the recovery of an activity (see the start of this post about the difference between the first stage when you follow internet threads and TV feeds with passivity, when you are easily led by visual, sounds, words,  into gathering into, into agregating into the autonomousity of the « internet », and keep in the back of this agregate sensation in you, driving your thoughts, something unconscious which expresses your own singular experience, which is the input that can help the other human to increase their own experience in a way that does not follow you but instead meets you, like when two skins touch , that something which happens outside of the surface of internet and TV, but could divert it in a new way (a bit in the spirit of Guattari s idea of a Chaosmosis mastery by an new Aesthetical Collective awareness (« Chaosmosis » 1991)

Regards to you all, un saludo desde 
Marine daughter of a Pirate










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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 13:06:19 -0400
From: Miro Visic <miroware@gmail.com>
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