carlo von lynX on Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:34:30 +0100 (CET)


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Re: <nettime> nettime-l Digest, Vol 174, Issue 40 Western Propaganda in Ukraine War for NATO


On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 01:56:08PM -0400, Miro Visic wrote:
> But the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization has
> subscribed to cult of death and destruction. Baghdad, Falluja, Belgrade...
> Libya, Syria... A crime after crime.

>From the Final Report to the Prosecutor by the Committee Established to Review the NATO Bombing Campaign Against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia:

https://www.icty.org/en/press/final-report-prosecutor-committee-established-review-nato-bombing-campaign-against-federal

    The committee has conducted its review relying essentially upon public documents, including statements made by NATO and NATO countries at press conferences and public documents produced by the FRY [Federal Republic of Yugoslavia] [...]
    Further, the committee has noted that Human Rights Watch found the two volume compilation of the FRY Ministry of Foreign Affairs entitled NATO Crimes in Yugoslavia generally reliable and the committee has tended to rely on the casualty figures for specific incidents in this compilation. If one accepts the figures in this compilation of approximately 495 civilians killed and 820 civilians wounded in documented instances, there is simply no evidence of the necessary crime base for charges of genocide or crimes against humanity.

Of course you can assume that also the international justice system
is in a huge conspiracy with NATO, or you can simply admit that your
assertion that NATO would have committed war crimes in Belgrade is
incorrect.

> War in Ukraine is not "unprovoked", it's instigated and provoked by Obama,
> Nuland, Biden... actions to a) harm Russia and b) to enable the West
> continuing looting of Ukraine.

Democratic developments in neighbouring countries are not harming
Russia. They may be disturbing the unlawful presidency in Russia.
It is inacceptable to consider that the personal interests of the
reigning oligarchy of Russia has any rights to make claims about
neighbouring countries and categorise them as provocations. All
countries are free to request adherance to NATO or EU as they like
including Russia. Also, the "West" is not present in Ukraine, so
the claim of any "looting" going on is unsubstantiated.

If you like to contribute to nettime, try not to base what you say
on factually incorrect claims.

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