tacira on Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:42:32 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> 20 years of Indymedia: Where are we now ?!


hi pod! long time no see, hi ingrid, tatiana from abya yala :)

as for a long time user and educator on free technologies for creative
media production I was a bit skeptical on the article -  we dont need to
create one more leftist tool, but re-ocuppy with purpose and love all
collective maintained tools - perhaps more influenced by intersectional
poltics (I am reading Ocalan :) but the networkS are alive, dormant
because NOT dispersed and very much re-creating itself all the time.
free philosophy and ethics becomes just more urgent then ever! As Krenak
an indigenous leader in brazil says we have been using "colored
parachutes" in this fall "being able to maintain our subjectivities, our
visions, our poetics about existence". 

we are in shock with the fire but its from the ashes that we create! 

here a recent ongoing work from the brazilian cyberfeminists
https://midiatatica.desarquivo.org/ tactical archives from the last
decade by collective perspectives. 

best for all!
t


Em 2019-09-10 08:19, podinski escreveu:
> Hi Ingrid et al, 
> 
>  hmm, a little shocked that so few want to discuss the indymedia
> platform topic... and what it means for today's struggles... 
> but na ja, so it goes in the web flood of efficiently cubicled
> (un-)solidarities... 
> 
> On 9/7/19 10:05 AM, Hoofd, I.M. (Ingrid) wrote:
> 
>> Hello ex-((i)) and ex-N5M3 folks,
>>
>> Just like to point out that https://www.indymedia.nl/ is still very
>> much alive! I haven't been involved for many years now, but perhaps
>> we could do something in Amsterdam, or barring that something in
>> Berlin together with the Dutch ((i)) folks? I'd be happy to be
>> involved somehow too!
>  sorry for slow reply... 
> things have been a little overloaded... 
> 
> good to hear that NL ((i)) is still kicking... i believe there are
> several still out there providing useful public channels ( as
> mentioned in the article, ie. Argentina ) !
> 
> Not quite sure how to proceed with any concrete event plans for
> Nov.... or beyond. 
> but happy to hear that there are some comrades out there who want to
> be involved...
> 
> Should be a topic at Transmediale 2019 "e2e" network theme...
> https://2020.transmediale.de/festival-2020
> 
> but one always has to wonder just how far out of touch the
> arts+cult+showtime sectors are with pragmatic activism + praxis ...
> i will check in to see, if not already too late. 
> 
> my cynical 2cent bits for the day...
> 
> podinski
> 
>> Cheers, Ingrid.
>>
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>> Subject: <nettime> 20 years of Indymedia: Where are we now ?!
>>
>> hello N-time,
>>
>> This November INDYMEDIA – (( i )) – will be 20 years old !!
>>
>> April Glaser writes a good short history of the pioneering
>> network/platform/newsfeed … for Logic Magazine ( here ). But
>> there’s
>> probably many more things that need to be analyzed in the history of
>> the
>> Internet and digital culture to understand and assess whether
>> “Another
>> Network Is Possible“… and where + how tactical media can unite
>> communities tomorrow…
>>
>> https://logicmag.io/bodies/another-network-is-possible/
>>
>> ...
>>
>> XLterrestrials are working on an expanded post about ALL that…
>>
>> http://xlterrestrials.org/plog/?p=19424
>>
>> excerpt from Part 1: Where are we now ?
>>
>>>
>>
>> ( that haunting + sad final-years-Bowie tune is playing back in our
>> heads as we write… )
>>
>> This is an extremely complicated discussion, and it will take more
>> than
>> a short essay to sort through all the angles and dilemmas we find
>> ourselves soaking in with the cybernetic technodystopias +
>> technospherical spectrum +/or rectal probes of the
>> military/corporate
>> communication industries, now oozing ubiquitous through all the
>> tissues
>> and orifices of human + social organization like electro-shock +
>> doctrines + disruption therapies to cure our inherited
>> already-anthropocene-driven madness… by accelerating it … like:
>> Here
>> take this, it’s another anthropo-scenic downloading spiral into
>> Stephen-Pinker-esque "tech-n-progress” Inc.
>>
>>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> On a tangent note, it would be nice to put on some Indy-inspired
>> type
>> tactical media event...
>>
>> perhaps in the Btropolis ( Berlin ) for this anniversary date...
>>
>> Any ((i)) and N5Minutes veterans wanna play with us on that ? get in
>> touch !
>>
>> There is already something planned in Houston hosted by IMC folks
>> there
>> ( at Rice U. ?) ...
>>
>> but nothing in the EU territories yet, as far as we know... and WHY
>> Btropolis?
>>
>> One of its IMC sites is still active,
>>
>> and its more radical sibling offshoot, got the crackdown + kicked
>> off
>> the webz 2 years ago. ( Linksunten )...
>>
>> And there's been heated discussions here about WHAT'S NEXT !!
>>
>> ...
>>
>> liebegreetz !
>>
>> podinski
>>
>> 0~~~~O-----o
>> www.xlterrestrials.org/plog [1] 

>> arts + praxis organisms
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