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Re: <nettime> No evidence of digital wrong-doing...
Morlock Elloi on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 17:38:02 +0100 (CET)


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Re: <nettime> No evidence of digital wrong-doing...


Judging by astronomical investments in #2 and #3, it's reasonable to assume that they can produce *any* election result. While the interplay between #2 and #3 can be discussed (I still think that #3 rules the game), there is no question that they create "reality" for #1.

The practical question is how to develop a group immunity without matching $$$. A Party of Abstinence?


On 1/31/19, 02:23, Felix Stalder wrote:
You are absolutely right, these work in different registers, but I don't
think there is a clear hierarchical relations between them like in a
technological stack where one layer builds upon the other.

It's more like these are different ways to structure our understanding
of, and agency in, social reality and they co-exist at the same time.
Ideally, one would more or less balance out  the deficits of the other,
but at the moment, it's rather less than more.

So the idea would be and with one add yet other registers, or frames,
then different ways of understanding, and acting in, reality might be
opened up.

Felix

On 30.01.19 14:31, Morlock Elloi wrote:
The three work on different protocol layers, going from top to low level
(in OSI terms think of them as Application, Transport and Physical layers):

1. Voting for someone involves some "thinking", in the sense "Is A
better for me/my village/guild than B?"

2. Mass media operates by displacing 1:1 human input/gossip with 1:many
input, and is essential for creating group identity beyond the village
(starting with Bible).

3. Social media, the latest entrant, works (the real work, not the
veneer) below the perception level, by exploiting finite nature of
wetware, somewhat similar to DoS. If you don't have access to data (you
don't), there is no way to know how exactly it works.

There are interactions between the three, mostly one-way, but it's a
mistake to consider them operating at the same or even remotely similar
level. None of them displaces the other, but the lower ones change the
ground for the higher ones.

On 1/30/19, 04:29, Felix Stalder wrote:
Repesentative democracy: institutional capture by special interests and
money necessary to run a political campaigns.

Mass media: small group of professional writers/speakers with narrow set
of opinions and often unacknowledged conflicts of interest.

Social Media: polarization of opinion due to the speed and brevity of
exchanges and the focus of the platforms on producing segmented
"engagement".

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