Laura Chimera on Mon, 23 Jan 2017 23:27:49 +0100 (CET)

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Re: <nettime> January 23, Trump Question

   You know what Sascha? I agree with you completely. Some people make it
   seem like the end of capitalism is going to soon be upon us, whether we
   like it or not, and I think that's completely ridiculous.

   > "I don't see any evidence at all that our society, or any other,
   is�looking to put an end to the system of independent
   market-based�decision-making that capitalism offers".

   Neither do I. What I do see, however, is that the limits of what you
   call "market capitalism" are wearing themselves a little too thin. And
   I believe that's by design: (I apologise for the extreme
   simplification, but bear with me...) corporations are optimized for
   profit, without a government regulating them, they'll drive up the
   prices as much as they can possibly get away with.

   Seen from European eyes, the current situation in the united states
   seems like a testing ground for ever more harsh forms of free market
   dystopia (just to name one example: the Epipen price hike affair).
   In a sense, it's much more meaningful to clamor and ask for fairer
   regulation within the market than to just give in to the fantasy that
   it will all collapse under its own weight.�I feel like if we all get
   distracted between indignation and accelerationism nobody will fight
   for our rights as citizens and consumers (and yes, I'm starting to
   think that distraction is the entire point).

   These are my 2 cents :)

   ~ L

   On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 at 17:07 Sascha D. Freudenheim <> wrote:

     To answer the last question first, I don't know precisely, but
     impeachment won't start until the Republicans in Congress feel
     that they have an acceptable rationale lined up, one that will be
     unambiguously clear to the 60+ million people who--despite
     despite overwhelming evidence of his incompetence, narcissism,
     and boorishness--nonetheless voted for Trump. Three days in, that
     rationale isn't there yet.

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