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[Nettime-bold]'s fascism

>dear nettime moderator(s),
>i'd like to know why you decided to publish such a dumb and aggressive 
>message like the one by the Lumpenilluminati:

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              - shear pathway to the core. 
              - promoting meme development. lokomotion. + reinvestment. 
              - meme sekurity + meme transaktions. [>] 

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>In a message dated 01/12/00 01:55:16 GMT Standard Time,
><< you could have not
>send anything and participate only to those protests which are pure and
> >>
>As we struggle not to be diverted by your aping of 80's centre left 'new
>realism' rhetoric, misguidance and crass over simplification in the above
>statement (you just forgot ".......were interested in getting into
>power"),which is useful in only exposing your reformist -promotional -
>Your political identity becomes clear, in its reactionary and non
>revolutionary basis....... to say nothing of certain of your people
>submitting work to their own initiative........we now see your crowning
>predictability in withdrawing from the DEBATE as other people start to
>comment ,just in case it jeopardises the provinence,sale price or popularity
>of your gimmick cum competition.
>As you continue to suppress open and free communications from the Lumpen
>illuminates and because of your initial and subsequent acts of JUDGING you
>have left us with no other option than to issue the following text to counter
>your chronic authoritarianism.
>'The workers are free activists'
>The judging panel of the 'no protest no profit' competition, a concept
>edited and published against the Lumpen Iluminati,against its prophet and
>against its projects,along with all the editors and publishers aware of its
>contents,are condemned to capitals punishment.We call on all valiant
>insurrectionists wherever they may be in the world to execute this sentence
>without delay,so that no one hencefoth will dare insult the sacred beliefs of
>the L.I.
>Ludo (minister of information to the L.I )
>-------end quote
>...and you didn't pubblish our reply "No Murder No Profit" (see next 
>message), which was indeed an ironical response to these idiots. I don't 
>understand why these assholes HAVE A RIGHT TO CONDEMN ANYONE TO "CAPITAL 
>PUNISHMENT" VIA NETTIME, even though they are joking  (what a funny game to 
>wake up in the morning and read that some dement that you have never seen 
>before have fun to call for your execution!)
>But what i don't frankly understand, even more, is if i decide to reply in 
>a sarcastic way i don't have a right to see my reply published. They also 
>accuse us to whithdraw from DEBATE (such a moloch!), whilst indeed are 
>nettime moderators who are filtering the debate. If you decide to start a 
>thread i guess you have to publish all the messages relative to that 
>thread, you cannot filter the messages you prefer, otherwise the debate 
>turns into a fake.
>i send you again  the message No Murder No Profit asking you, whoever you 
>are, to not filter it.
>ps i don't want this message to be published, just the next one. 
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