Terrence Kosick on 9 Nov 2000 08:20:52 -0000


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[Nettime-bold] Re: RHIZOME_RAW: [ot] [!nt] \n2+0\


Terrence writes;

 Be brave try to forget the filters.  Logos 80% and the filters 20%... no mind = empty
Take a jorney and bring a boon to all.

ARTNATURAL + LOGOS



integer@www.god-emil.dk wrote:

> >cage
>
> nn haz releaszd 173 cdz dzat = !nfr!nge upon [cage.z]  2.3  [z!lansz]
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> >>> but the gimmick-art thing going on today, has no soul,
> >>> no emotion, no depth, no communication.
>
> = prez!zl!. = !t dzat makez !t .be au+au t!fl++
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> >>> but the gimmick-art thing going on today, has no soul,
> >>> no emotion, no depth, no communication.
>
> when humans listen to one person speaking.
> read one page of print - much of what humans think they see or hear
> is supplied from personal memory.
>
> whatever the brain looks at is really about 20%
> of signals from the outside world and 80% of old templates, filters, memories and beliefs
> about the world.
>
> konztataz!e +? fr!endl!.
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> >Terrence;
> >
> >Really, An empty communication is as pure as the concept gets. I posted it in
> >seriousness. There is true meaning to what i did, I consider it a very small
> >but important gesture. I will contextualize further at a future site .
> >
> >Since ((o)) has posted his www.emptywebsite.com and is making agressive
> >unprovoked attacks on my work I will parlay IMO ((o)) s approach is merely
> >echoing other great works and is perhaps "the original webart empty gimmick". I
> >mean he goes as far as even registering the site and putting a registered mark
> >on it. How long did he wait so he could slip it on Rhizome? It is hilarious
> >really.  His big mistake was dissing my truly serious empty e-mail art work on
> >this list serve.
> >
> >Teo did ask for all forms of empty net art. ((o)) behaviour here is
> >unprofessional and his invalidating is really creepy.
> >
> >ARTNATURAL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Gustavo Barbosa wrote:
> >
> >> I agree...
> >> Besides in Cage's, for instance, there was the whole issue about silence, is
> >> there such thing and all that... probably not, so it still can be considered
> >> a piece...
> >> The digital media/world is much colder so yep, it's empty and that's it...
> >> nothing more, nothing less, nothing else...
> >> Well, that's what I think... at least now...
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: (((o))) <leegte@xs4all.nl>
> >> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> >> Sent: 08 November 2000 19:15
> >> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: empty net.art
> >>
> >> i'm afraid i'm not in favor of this approach.
> >>
> >> empty work is not just some rational gimmick,
> >> "who can think of something to do with empty" kind of stuff.
> >> you could maybe end at a minimal style of work as the only way out of
> >> expressing your thoughts or feelings you've been gardening.
> >> that's worth something.
> >> but the gimmick-art thing going on today, has no soul,
> >> no emotion, no depth, no communication.
> >> and it's precisely that what makes good minimal work so beautifull.
> >> it frightens you out of your wits, slams you on the floor, to let you start
> >> crying,
> >> or you walk out pissed off because some artist tried to wedge you out of
> >> your
> >> precious projected world, and apparently did a good job at it.
> >>
> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>   From: Terrence Kosick
> >>   To: (((o))) ; teo@teo-spiller.org
> >>   Cc: list@rhizome.org
> >>   Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 6:36 PM
> >>   Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: empty net.art
> >>
> >>   empty mail art example;
> >>   _________________________________________________________
> >>   Subject:
> >>            EMPTY
> >>       Date:
> >>            Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:48:49 -0700
> >>      From:
> >>            Terrence Kosick <kosick@sprint.ca>
> >>        To:
> >>            list <list@rhizome.org>
> >>
> >>   _________________________________________________________
> >>
> >>   "(((o)))" wrote:
> >>
> >>     http://www.emptywebsite.com
> >>     ----- Original Message -----
> >>     From: "teo spiller" <teo.spiller@rzs-hm.si>
> >>     To: "Rhizome" <list@rhizome.org>
> >>     Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 1:27 PM
> >>     Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: empty net.art
> >>
> >>     > We knew some practices of "empty" art pieces in 20 th century:
> >>     >
> >>     > the Cage's composition of 2 minutes and 53 seconds silence,  the
> >>     exhibition
> >>     > of empty canvases, the empty gallery instead of sculptures, the empty
> >>     sheet
> >>     > of paper instead of a poem, the book of empty sheets, etc, etc.
> >>     >
> >>     > but how would the "empty" net.art look like?
> >>     >
> >>     > Here are three examples (which is the right one):
> >>     >
> >>     > http://www.teo-spiller.org/empty1/
> >>     > http://www.teo-spiller.org/empty2/
> >>     > http://www.teo-spiller.org/empty3/
> >>     >
> >>     > You are welcome to find out more "empty" pieces and send the link of
> >> it to
> >>     > teo@teo-spiller.org
>
>
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