Andreas Broeckmann on Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:11:05 +0100


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Syndicate: P.Treanor zapped himself


sorry folks, but this is too weird, it's gossip, so if you are not in the
mood, just delete:


(i just received this:)


>Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:34:25 +0200
>From: Majordomo@aec.at
>
>P.Treanor@zap.A2000.nl has unsubscribed from syndicate.
>No action is required on your part.


(this is the standard message that we get when somebody unsubscribes from
the syndicate list. the message looks the same when inke or i unsubscribe
somebody (which we really only do on request), and i can only assure you
that neither inke nor i did this. 'paul' threw the towel, as we say in
boxing.

'paul treanor' first subscribed to the list on 29 march - you may have seen
some of his postings. after the pretty strange FAQs about Help B92 he
pointed to yesterday, i asked:)


Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:31:52 +0100
From: Andreas Broeckmann <abroeck@v2.nl>
Subject: Syndicate: Re: Treanor FAQ

who is Paul Treanor? his extensive website does not seem to offer a CV.

Paul Treanor wrote:
>more information would be welcome


(he answered with a correction of a minor mistake, so i wrote back to him
personally and got this answer:)


Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:38:31 +0200
From: t <P.Treanor@zap.A2000.nl>
To: Andreas Broeckmann <abroeck@v2.nl>
Subject: Re: Syndicate: Re: Treanor FAQ

Andreas Broeckmann wrote:

> this is not an answer to the question i posed: who is paul treanor?

Who is f_3@dds.nl?

pt


(interesting, but i insisted:)


To: t <P.Treanor@zap.A2000.nl>
From: Andreas Broeckmann <abroeck@v2.nl>

>Who is f_3@dds.nl?

no idea. it's not me. might be paul treanor, as far as i am concerned ...

why can you not say who you are ? what is the problem with sending some
evidence that you are not some fake?



Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:10:30 +0200
From: t <P.Treanor@zap.A2000.nl>
To: Andreas Broeckmann <abroeck@v2.nl>

Andreas Broeckmann wrote:

> why can you not say who you are ? what is the problem with sending some
> evidence that you are not some fake?

like Lara Croft?
--
Paul Treanor
http://www.diagonal.demon.nl




To: t <P.Treanor@zap.A2000.nl>
From: Andreas Broeckmann <abroeck@v2.nl>

>> why can you not say who you are ? what is the problem with sending some
>> evidence that you are not some fake?
>
>like Lara Croft?

funny you should say that ...
don't know. maybe you are an auto-reply knowbot with some 'anti-rhetoric'
machine running in the background.

why can you not say who you are ?


(difficult not to get paranoid, i thought. remember that, even if you may
be paranoid, that does not mean that you are not being followed. so i
sought help with some friends in amsterdam, @zap.A2000.nl being the domain
of a local amsterdam internet-via-the-cable provider.)


Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:14:13 +0200 (CEST)
From: Andreas Broeckmann <abroeck@v2.nl>
Subject: paul treanor faq

if any of you has ever met paul treanor and can say anything about him,
could you please say 'yes'; my guess at the moment is that he does not
exist. he might be me! aaargh!



the only person who responded had not met him ever, either.


(and now this:)

>Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:34:25 +0200
>From: Majordomo@aec.at
>
>P.Treanor@zap.A2000.nl has unsubscribed from syndicate.
>No action is required on your part.


(conclusion?)

i don't get it. arthur suggested that the answer might lie in paul's last
posting where he says:

'Free speech is part of the historical effect of Europe. It is one of the
great historical evils, which Europe has inflicted on the world, along with
the free market and the nation state.'

maybe because nobody else was going to deprive him of his evil free speech
option, he did it himself.  - we'll need noam chomsky to solve this one, i
guess.


more confused,
-a


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