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From: "Declan McCullagh" <email@example.com> To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Cc: <email@example.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:55 PM Subject: FC: Zenon Panoussis's letter to Kirkland: "I invite you to sue me" > Zenon has been sued by Scientology for mirroring their ostensibly > secret scriptures: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1dd/cos/zenon-eng.html > > --- > > Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 04:24:47 +0200 > From: Zenon Panoussis <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Organization: Marcab Technologies > To: Steven A Smith <email@example.com> > Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org, > Kirkland City Manager David Ramsay c/o <email@example.com> > Subject: The fine art of suppressing information on the Internet > > > Dear Steven > > With some amazement, some disbelief and a lot of amusement, I read > at http://www.politechbot.com/kirkland/ that you have been threatening > legal action on behalf of the city of Kirkland against Declan McCullagh's > politechbot.com for its publication of some police officers' social > security numbers. > > Dear Steven. Being a good counsel to your client is not limited to > firing off standard cease & desist letters at the press of a button. > On the contrary, being a good counsel involves advising the client > on strategy and, in doing so, taking into account the nature, > strength, habits and expected reactions of the counterpart. > > Dear Steven. You have advised your client to start a war against the > Internet. Not only that; you have actually started a war on behalf > of your client. Any half-wit who has been online for more than six > weeks could have told you that anybody who starts a war on the > Internet is guaranteed to lose it. If you would rather not take the > advise of half-wits, you could have asked the Recording Industry > Association of America, The Motion Picture Association of America, > the Church of Scientology (OK, I admit, those *are* half-wits, but > they are half-wits with millions), the Ford Motor Company or the > German government instead. They would all have told you the same. > > Dear Steven. I regret to have to tell you that you did a lousy > job in persuing your clients' interests. The best way to go about > it would have been a polite e-mail, asking whether politechbot.com > would kindly remove those SSNs from the web as a token of > consideration and respect of the officers' privacy and worry about > possible abuse. You never know, you could have striken a cord there. > The next best way to go about it would have been to just do nothing. > > Dear Steven. Your client has to pay for your mistakes. The article > that you demand removed is now republished by me at > http://www.provocation.net/mirrors/kirkland/p-02008.html and I am > hereby inviting your clients to sue me. You can do so in the US, > but a US ruling will not be enforceable against me. If you want > an enforceable ruling, you need to sue > > Zenon Panoussis > 2e van Swindenstraat 188 > 1093 XA Amsterdam > The Netherlands > > (that's me) at the appropriate Dutch court, which is > > Rechtbank Amsterdam > Parnassusweg 220 > 1076 AV Amsterdam > The Netherlands > > You see, dear Steven, this means that any legal action against > politechbot.com will be useless even if it is successful; the > article in question will remain on the web, and it will attract > so much more attention precisely because of your lawsuit. Of > course, you could continue threatening and sueing left and right > for ever, until your clients run out of money and you become > known to your collegues as Don Steven Quixote. Somehow, though, > I think that you are able to learn from your mistakes and that > nothing of this will happen. Somehow I suspect that you will > not reply to this mail, and that you will quietly and with as > little loss of face as possible drop the whole issue and forget > that you ever started it. I am pretty sure that your client > will appreciate that. > > Best regards, > > Z > > > -- > oracle@everywhere: The ephemeral source of the eternal truth... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list > You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. > To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html > This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________ * Verspreid via nettime-nl. Commercieel gebruik niet * toegestaan zonder toestemming. <nettime-nl> is een * open en ongemodereerde mailinglist over net-kritiek. * Meer info, archief & anderstalige edities: * http://www.nettime.org/. * Contact: Menno Grootveld (firstname.lastname@example.org).