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Slobodan Markovic <twiddle@EUnet.yu>
          Total Madness Again
Matthew Smith <>
          Re: <nettime> Re: the personal is political? 

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From: "Slobodan Markovic" <twiddle@EUnet.yu>
Subject: Total Madness Again
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:09:22 +0200

    NATO blew it this time. Their actions in Yugoslavia are showing
    fundamental misunderstanding of Kosovo crisis and Balkan mentalities.
    After CNN reported 500.000 Albanian refugees on Kosovo, Clinton
    responded, on a press conference, that NATO will strike now with 
    even more power in attempt to stop killings. Totally wrong.

    Everybody is potential victim on Balkans. In this moment of time
    Albanians are fleeing from their homes (around 2000 is crossing 
    Yugoslav borders daily). Just few years ago around 300.000 Serbs 
    fled from Bosnia after Croatian military operation The Storm.

    That was the revenge. And Albanian exodus now is also some kind 
    of revenge. NATO attacks gave perfect excuse to Slobodan Milosevic
    to ban all independent media in Serbia, homogenize nation behind 
    him and hit Kosovo with much larger police + military forces.

    If there was no NATO attack we would still have low scale conflict 
    on Kosovo that allows peace negotiations. Now everything is more 
    or less finished. Just like after The Storm, nothing will be the 
    same, including possible future negotiations... not to mention
    life on Kosovo...


            Slobodan Markovic   | http://solair.eunet.yu/~twiddle
            Internodium Project |

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From: "Matthew Smith" <>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:40:17 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: Re: <nettime> Re: the personal is political? 

Dear Richard Barbrook.

The problematic part of the whole mess in the balkans is, as far as you or
any other west european/north american should be concerned, the fact that
NATO has attacked a sovreign country without UN mandate. All the spin
about this being a humanitarian mission must be ignored, since the logic
does not work out. It has been stated a number of times on this list, but
i will do it again: If the motivation of NATO was to save lives and stop
ethnic warfare, then why does it call Turkey "an esteemed ally" for e.g.
and support Turkey in its fight against the PKK?
Also, please refrain from using such harsh expressions on people who
actually think be4 they write, and try to weigh there judgement be4
ranting off on mainstream EU/NATO propagande BULLSHIT.


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