Elisa Rose on Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:17:32 +0100 (CET)

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Re: <nettime> Digital Decay and traceless art

First of all I want to say that this subject is really powerful !

Realtime in the middle of it - one of the hottest themes right now.
Nothing interests me more since years, I experiment/play with it as often
as I can.
Realtime excludes archiving in a way, doesnt it?
As soon as STReaming realtime art=webcasting is archived, it is past.

For me as a (multimedia realtime) artist archiving immediately means extra
work (without pleasure), that destroys the moment of fluid  realtime art.
Basically I dont want to go back to past realtime moments, but instead
create new ones.

realtime is the most powerful "time" for digital art, so trying to save it
IMHO is wrong .
it is like having to write concepts (with words) for people, curators, ...
cause they believe when they read about art then they understand. But can
they "understand" art when we supply words?
donīt they have to experience it, going into those rooms out of visuals&soundz?

webcasting is one powerful way of playing LIVE as an artist, everything
around it is secondary.

Tjebbe van Tijen brings in the term "ceremonial sand drawings" of the
Navajo. I like this very< much.
Digital art is like this, it comes and goes. and when it comes back, it is
different, updated & morphed, with new layers, to a new realtime piece of


>At 23:49 01.03.99 +0100, Tjebbe van Tijen wrote:

... Too much preservation is suffocating, does not leave enough
>>space for new creation.. Nice  real time experiences should not all be made
>>into objects of adoration, be commodified, be given 'eternal value'.
>>So to narrow my argument down again to the posting on the Nettime list of
>>Till Baumgarten, one could ask if a lot of what is by some classified as
>>'Net Art' should not be seen as a broadcast, a life event... something that
>>maybe is not happening in one moment but in many short moments during a
>>quiet limited period of time... art for just for the moment itself...
>>See its function as the  ceremonial sand drawings of the Navajo, only meant
>>to exist during the ceremony, to be blown away by the northern winds
>>Tjebbe van Tijen

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