Re: <nettime> Direction of Travel

[Rich Kulawiec via Nettime-tmp <nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org>]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 12:02:10AM +1000, paul van der walt via Nettime-tmp wrote:
> * John Preston will reach out to riseup.net, to ask whether they  would be
> willing and/or able to host a list of our size,
> * Jordan Crandall knows the executive director of rhizome.org and  so will
> put out feelers in that direction,
> * Henk said that waag.org would be able to host nettime if we  wanted that.

These may or may not be good options, but I thought that the idea was
to do everything possible to avoid having to revisit this issue in the
future -- which is why I didn't volunteer to host the list even though
I could have it running on existing infrastructure in a matter of hours.

Otherwise: what's the plan when riseup.net (et.al.) go away?  (That's not
a rhetorical question.)  You'll be right back here again.  The only way
to avoid this inevitability is to run your own domain, mail system,
and mailing list -- and to structure it so that it's a lift-and-drop
operation to shift it to another host should that need arise.

These are baseline skills for any competent sysadmin, so this shouldn't
be that hard.  There have got to be half a dozen (or more) people here
who have this skillset, right?  Or who are capable of learning and who
are willing to invest the necessary time/effort?

Otherwise, all that will happen is shifting and deferring the problem,
not solving the problem.  And if you want to choose that path: well,
it's certainly an option.  But that choice will have consequences.

---rsk
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