Frédéric Neyrat on Wed, 25 Jan 2023 19:24:26 +0100 (CET)


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[Brian told me that perhaps I could share the notes I sent to him, hence what follows below}

Thank you, dear Brian because I think I'm coming to the same point but I lived it before reading you as a painful contradiction! Yet we can see that we must avoid AND (1) the technological naivety (techno fix or accelerationism) AND (1b) localism in survivalist mode, AND (2) it's also necessary to find a planetary technology AND (2b) to go towards voluntary degrowth (Illich etc); damn, what a complexity, but, yes, I think we're there (even though, of course, something completely unexpected - as usual - will actually reshape the whole situation).

Frédéric
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On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 6:01 PM Brian Holmes <bhcontinentaldrift@gmail.com> wrote:
Felix wrote:

"On an analytic level, I lean towards the latter, on a level of political
strategy, towards the former. But that's a rather in-congruent position,
I'm afraid."

Ha ha, I suffer the same incongruence.

Yet maybe green growth/degrowth is a false binary. Degrowth is coming, via breakdown. We will not have the same hyperproductive transnational system in the future - including in agriculture, where I guess it will get heavy very soon, due to drought. People can prepare for this inevitable degrowth in all kinds of ways, including culturally. Municipalities and other political units can make changes now.

By the same token, green growth is ultimately impossible. Even if you had hydrogen fusion, that does not fix 500ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere. So why not transform the energy system right away, while that can still be done? Disaster socialism will be a lot better with solar power!

This is why I support both degrowth and green capitalism. While recognizing the high degree of irrealism that pervades both camps.

thoughtfully, Brian

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 4:23 AM Felix Stalder <felix@openflows.com> wrote:
Hi Brian,

thanks for point out this talk (and connecting it back to the
introductory book "Earth System Science", which I agree is great).

Applying 'systems thinking' around 'tipping points' to social dynamics
raises very interesting issues about how radical change comes about.

The classic revolutionary/anti-capitalist perspective maintains that we
need to change the fundamentals of the system in order to bring about
radically different dynamic. Following the model of the great modern
(American, French, Russian, Chinese, Cuban etc) revolutions, systemic
change comes first, from which then new social dynamic emerge. This is
an appealing model, because it sounds like you know what you do, but
also a paralyzing one, because you need to the big things first, before
the small things can be done.

The tipping point view would maintain that we can move towards tipping
points within the existing dynamics in order to bring about radically
different ones once the threshold has been passed. This is, in a way, a
scary model, because tipping points are, almost by definition,
unpredictable, because of the many interacting cascades they can set of.
Given that some of these cascades can provide negative feedback, meaning
dampening change, it's also hard to predict where exactly the tipping
points lies and what exactly will be tipped. On the other hand, it's an
appealing vision, because it suggest that even smaller changes, if
applied strategically, can result in large-scale transformations.

Lenton makes a decent point about the tipping points towards renewable
energies that might be passed soon. On the technical side, we might have
passed it, all the necessary elements are here already [1]. I think the
fossil fuel sector knows this hence it's lobbying hard to delay that
point has long as possible. The question is, is that enough of a tipping
point, or will it simply displace the resource hungry growth imperative
of capitalism?

The tension between these two points of view is visible in a fascinating
recent discussion "How to Save the Planet: Degrowth vs Green Growth?"
[2]. While they never mention the contrast between revolution and
tipping points, it's clearly operative. Green Growth argues for using
the existing system dynamics to affect its direction (de-carbonization),
where as de-growth see as an approach that has not worked out in the
last 30 years and connects it to the capitalism need for growth.

On an analytic level, I lean towards the latter, on a level of political
strategy, towards the former. But that's a rather in-congruent position,
I'm afraid.


[1]
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/23/no-miracles-needed-prof-mark-jacobson-on-how-wind-sun-and-water-can-power-the-world

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxJrBR0lg6s


On 20.01.23 21:37, Brian Holmes wrote:
> Among the small but highly influential group of scientists building on
> the Gaia theory of Lovelock and Margulis, Tim Lenton might have been the
> most unobtrusive - until now. At 49 he's quite young for the impressive
> quantity and quality of the work he has produced. For instance, he's the
> author of a very short but fundamental book on biogeochemical cycles,
> tracing the vast and intricate process whereby specific elements such as
> carbon circulate through the atmosphere, the oceans and the earth's
> crust - with important detours through living beings (1). He was also
> the lead author, with Rockstrom, Schellnhuber and others, of the
> inaugural 2008 paper on tipping elements capable of provoking phase
> changes in the earth system (2). You could further check out a recent
> article in The Anthropocene Review, co-authored with Bruno Latour, on
> the role of Life in the production and maintenance of habitable
> conditions on our planet (3). Lenton appears for Zoom talks in a spare,
> book-lined bedroom, as though he forgot he's no longer a graduate
> student and didn't notice whatever cascade of honors has ensued since
> then. He's concerned with other cascades.
>
> Last summer Lenton was a co-author of a paper entitled "Climate Endgame:
> Exploring catastrophic climate change scenarios," which examines the
> existential risk to humanity posed by runaway global warming (4). The
> key concept is that of so-called "tipping cascades," which are likely to
> begin in earnest at only 1.5 degrees centigrade of global warming (we're
> currently around 1.2 degrees). In such cascades, one fundamental change
> in earth system dynamics sets off another, leading to consequences far
> beyond those outlined in the increasingly dire IPCC reports. The main
> difference between the IPCC consensus and Lenton's view concerns the
> rates of possible change, which are essentially linear for the former
> (more CO2, more warming), while for the latter, they necessarily pass
> accelerative thresholds affecting not only temperature, but also, the
> intricate dynamics of biogeochemical cycles.
>
> A couple weeks ago I started watching a talk that Lenton gave a year ago
> to a group - or really, a movement - called Scientist Rebellion. It's
> got the most ungainly title: "Positive tipping points to avoid climate
> tipping points" (5). After recapping the various cascade scenarios of
> the current climate emergency, he goes on to discuss reinforcing
> feedbacks that could push global society out of the current
> business-as-usual trajectory. Basically he's talking about cheap power
> from renewables and rising sales of electric cars as the drivers for
> major transformations in the sectors of battery storage, hydrogen
> fuel-cell production and "green fertiliser" (nitrogen produced without
> the use of methane feedstocks). The video is extraordinary because of
> the intense questions asked by the rebellious young scientists,
> including how does he deal emotionally with his own knowledge and
> whether it would be important to examine negative social tipping
> cascades, like the effects of European colonization of the Americas.
>
> I returned to the video last night, and finished watching it in parallel
> with my partner Claire. At some point near the end Lenton begins talking
> about coalitions between scientists, civil society, the financial sector
> and the media - in short, a concerted intervention in global political
> ecology, although he doesn't use the term. It was obvious that this was
> not a traditional egghead paper but an activist blueprint for global
> system change. According to Lenton it represents a possibly feasible
> pathway - a "fifty-fifty chance" - for avoiding the above-mentioned
> existential risk to the human species (and presumably, many many others).
>
> As soon as she had finished the video, Claire began googling around and
> found an article in the Guardian, only hours old, about a proposal that
> had just been pitched to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
> It's an operationalized plan produced by the Systemiq consultancy in
> collaboration with the Global Systems Institute directed by Lenton at
> the University of Exeter, under the title "The Breakthrough Effect: How
> to Trigger a Cascade of Tipping Effects to Accelerate the Net-Zero
> Transition" (6). This is not about a revolution, and concerning the
> Scientist Rebellion question about negative social tipping cascades,
> it's clear Lenton does not want to go there. This is about a consensual
> transformation of the material basis underpinning the current form of
> the corporate state, whose representatives gather every year at this
> time, on top of a Swiss mountain.
>
> Do you think it can be done? Will Davos Man finally answer the
> ecological question? Will you sign on too? Can a nudge in time save nine
> degrees of global warming?
>
> Or maybe the initial prophecy holds...
>
> cheers, Brian
>
> ***
>
> 1. Lenton, *Earth System Science: A Very Short Introduction*, Oxford
> University Press, 2016.
>
> 2. Lenton et al., "Tipping elements in the Earth's climate system," PNAS
> 105(6), 2008, https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.0705414105
> <https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.0705414105>
>
> 3. Lenton, Dutreuil and Latour, "Life on Earth is Hard to Spot,"
> Anthropocene Review 7(3), 2020,
> https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2053019620918939
> <https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2053019620918939>
>
> 4. Luke Kemp et al., "Climate Endgame: Exploring catastrophic climate
> change scenarios," PNAS 119(34), 2022,
> https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2108146119
> <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2108146119>
>
> 5. Scientist Rebellion Talk Series #1,
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqpmE_FQwpI
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqpmE_FQwpI>
>
> 6. Meldrum, Pinnell, Brennan, Romani, Sharpe and Lenton, "The
> Breakthrough Effect: How to Trigger a Cascade of Tipping Effects to
> Accelerate the Net-Zero Transition," report by Sytemiq and the Global
> Systems Institute, 2023,
> https://www.systemiq.earth/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/The-Breakthrough-Effect.pdf <https://www.systemiq.earth/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/The-Breakthrough-Effect.pdf>
>
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