|Paolo Gerbaudo on Fri, 17 Sep 2021 19:13:15 +0200 (CEST)|
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Hi everyone and thanks for the comments and questions:
Brian: the spirit of the book is a mix of Polanyi and Hegel. In fact Polanyi's idea of second movement is very Hegelian. Obviously our situation is markedly different from what Polanyi witnessed in the 1930s. The similarity has to do with a moment of capitalist expansion and global integration, the Belle Epoque before WWI and WWII and now the expansion of the 1990s and 2000s, ensued after 2008 by populist rebellions that already crippled its foundations.
The point on protection, and who protects whom from what is crucial in the book. There is a chapter dedicated to class analysis with a mapping of right, left, and centre class coalitions. I counterpose the proprietarian protectionism of the right (based on the equivalence nation=home/property) and the social protectivism emerging on the left. The class coalition of the right typically comprise peripheral workers fearful of international competition and middle and upper class fearful of declining conditions and of people getting their money respectively. The pivot of the left coalition is instead service workers and the professional class in the broad sense. Service workers want to be protected from precariety and low salaries, professionals from their incipient proletarianisation.
David: I think in the European case thinks get more complicated. Indeed one could say that the European Union recovery plan and the slow move towards Euro bonds. The EU to date has been a weird structure in-between a suprastate a nonstate. Some signs point to the move away from disciplinary neoliberalism also at that level. And I think there is a change in attitude also towards government spending despite resistance from austerians. But anyway much of this neostatism is national. And also the pandemic has seen much activity from states within then EU often adopting policies not coordinated continentally.
Thanks for your points Andreas in EU institutions and the relationship Commission/Council. I think it’ll be interesting to see what happens if anything in terms of EU reform in the aftermath of German elections
Btw a teaser of the book was just released
I hope you enjoy it. I hope we will have chances to discuss these issues in more depth and hopefully in person!
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