Re: <nettime> rage against the machine

[Menno Grootveld <rabotnik@xs4all.nl>]

Friends, I would say that to be caught in a plane that is nosediving 
(and apparently burning before it hit the ground) because of some 
outright criminal behaviour by some idiots that think they can get away 
with not fixing the bugs in their software and thereby putting the lives 
of their passengers at risk is about the closest thing nowadays to being 
burned at the stake, so no, I would not call it 'flippant rhetoric'. 
Actually I would say we need more of this 'flippant rhetoric' to counter 
the threat of the extreme right AND their puppet masters in the 
neo-liberal establishment. I'm afraid it's about time we become a little 
but less 'reasonable'...

Op 23-03-19 om 11:54 schreef Andreas Broeckmann:
> friends, call me over-sensitive, but i think that nobody should be 
> burned at the stake for anything in any country; i say this also 
> because this flippant kind of rhetoric poisons the reasonable debate 
> that is so urgently needed on the matters at issue here. (to the 
> contrary, i am glad that some civilised countries find forms of 
> punishment other than that for actual wrongdoing.) - unfortunately, in 
> a world where people get imprisoned and killed for all sorts of 
> things, there is little room for such dark humour... when all the 
> stakes have been taken down everywhere, we'll be able to laugh about 
> this joke again, perhaps.
> -a
>
>
> Am 23.03.19 um 05:46 schrieb Keith Hart:
> > "There is no excuse for such criminal product packaging. Anyone doing 
> > it or defending it should be burned at stake in any civilized 
> > country. The fact that it will not happen is the best statement about 
> > the times we live in."
> >
> >   I agree. Thank you for the clarity of your writing in this thread, 
> > much the best that I have seen on this subject.
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