Re: <nettime> rage against the machine

[Patrick Lichty <voyd@voyd.com>]

Yes, and sorry for being silent so long.

"It would cost a fortune a decade ago to create robotic suicide vehicle bomber, so humans were used. Today anyone with basic skills can buy one of these and hack the controls. It's 100% software job. Add some ML and the vehicle can pick victims on its own ("dark skinned males" or "carrying yoga mat" or "MAGA hat", etc.)”

Oh, for sure. I can just imagine Charlottesville or London or Paris with an automatic system.  Pick out women with hijabs, or white men with MAGA hats, or anyone with a color below the paper bag test.

Remember that that a significant percentage of these Western ones are a small but significant part of a dying hegemony that is feeling it is being disenfranchised and disemployed, etc. In Charlottesville and Christchurch, the call was “You will not replace us”. But the more apt critique is that it isn’t the brown on islamic body that might be actually doing a thing.  

It might be the robots, run by their upper class brethren.



> On Mar 18, 2019, at 12:23 AM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
> 
> Safety in the real world is like privacy online, far less effective then adveritized. Machines, like buildings and infrastructure, come with inherent hazards: Deaths and injuries are acceptable costs of "convenience," "benefits," "jobs," "progress."
> 
> Finance and insurance are like autocratic national security, secretive, vampiric and bloodthirsty, thriving on misfortune of the unlucky who are targeted by global marketing enterprises and profitability (branding, influencing, celebritization. FirstLook.media a shining example, gander its preening slather underwritten by RU-grade empathy and oligarchy
> 
> Professionals, all of them, are predators state-licensed to provide assurance the public interest is protected, though casualties are to be expected, normalized, in law, medicine, education, construction, incarceration, journalism - racketeer-influenced organizations - above all in government legislation and regulation subject to predatory practices camouflaged by elections and FOI pretense.
> 
> .
> 
> At 03:48 PM 3/17/2019, you wrote:
>> This is deeply ideological and political issue, not technical one. Inserting code written by middlemen between humans and reality empowers only the middlemen. Humans are presented by fantasy that adheres to reality when and in degree being decided by the middlemen.
>> 
>> There is one small step between this and removing all agency from humans (if not already done). It's like company wants to sack someone, first they make sure that the sackee's job is irrelevant (someone else controls and does it) and the sackee cannot do damage.
>> 
>> Well, you are being sacked.
>> 
>> Note that autonomous vehicles are becoming affordable assassination instruments. It would cost a fortune a decade ago to create robotic suicide vehicle bomber, so humans were used. Today anyone with basic skills can buy one of these and hack the controls. It's 100% software job. Add some ML and the vehicle can pick victims on its own ("dark skinned males" or "carrying yoga mat" or "MAGA hat", etc.)
>> 
>> 
>>> " But Boeing isn't planning to overhaul its training procedures. And
>>> neither the F.A.A., nor the European Union Aviation Safety Agency
>>> <https://www.easa.europa.eu/>, are proposing additional simulator
>>> training for pilots, according to a person familiar with the
>>> deliberations. Instead, the regulators and Boeing agree that the best
>>> way to inform pilots about the new software is through additional
>>> computer-based training, which can be done on their personal computers."
>> 
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