<nettime> recombotechtance digest [ityn, griffis]

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ityn@gmx.net
     Biotech...but..."recombinant_resistance"?
Ryan Griffis <grifray@yahoo.com>
     RE: biotech and architecture

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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 19:09:49 +0200 (MEST)
From: ityn@gmx.net
Subject: Biotech...but..."recombinant_resistance"?

> Put plainly, the interest is in building beyond the bodies we know. This
is the future of the city.

I have only these brief questions to pose, mr. Bratton. Whereas in the past
a basis for resistence was found in an idea of the human, humanism, and the
war against hegemonic Power continues to be waged from the ground of the human
body— from where do we resist once we’ve lost our body (our bodies?). my
provisory answer is from the world— or for the world— but i´m not sure what I
mean by that.  Perhaps you can help. 

second question. Where does one begin their research in the frightful and
poetic field of recombinant architecture? 

yours,
ityn

(ps apologies if the first question seems curt, but... what does one say.)

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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:08:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Griffis <grifray@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: biotech and architecture

"But I couldn't help feeling that it felt strangely
like a piece of biotech marketing material in its
imperial scope and through-going suppression of
feminist and racial critiques of this kind of
discourse." 

i think Danny brings up a very good point, and one
Rosalyn Deutsche makes thoroughly regarding
arhitectural discourse and authoritarian/masculine
impulses in the theorization of public space.
while i'm not sure about the "bricks and mortar" call
for material proof, which can easily fall into "common
sense" argumentation, it certainly seems appropriate
to try to open up the dialogue for feminist and other
theories of oppression given the histories. It's not
like the voices aren't there - Faith Wilding (and
subRosa) is a case in point.
no criticism should be considered beyond criticism
itself. this would be especially true for matters as
far reaching as biotech and genetics for sure. [no
position can be totalizing (if one tries it's time to
be really wary), so criticism from other positions are
needed, in my opinion.]
this doesn't have to be essentialist. and i don't take
Danny's comments as such, even though i didn't see the
originating essay as "biotech marketing" myself.
best,
ryan

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