Lachlan Brown on Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:09:26 +0100 (CET)

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<nettime> Re: the degree zero of Nettime


Thank you for sharing your chapter and for marketing yourself, your
forthcoming book, your University and your prospective publisher Verso in
the Nettime mailinglist. Moderators might consider the value to you, your
university and the publisher Verso of this marketing and invoice all three. 

>MW: An excellent paper, about which i have mixed feelings, because as i
read it i seem to find among your original insights some of my own ideas
and formulations, unacknowledged. Am i imagining this?

>TT: yes, i understand the difficulty that you talk about... because what I
do rides a lot on top of the fruits of the collective production of
knowledge that happens in the lists and on the sites, which in its turn is
mixed up with all kinds of material from the collective work of academic

Tiziana, Thank you for this statement. It highlights a need for thought
concerning the 'more scholarly approach' you intimate in your paper.

>TT But again, if you or anybody else have any suggestions about
negotiating the authorship/collectivity problem other than making it very
clear that it is not an analysis of but a conversation with, and
referencing all postings so that people might look them up themselves, any
such suggestion would be welcome...


The authorship/collectivity 'problem' is easily resolved. You might arrange
a contract to identify and to pay the collectivity the advance on royalty
as well as all royalty accruing from the sale of the book… You might also
arrange a similar contract with your employer for your salary to go to the

I have a few questions concerning a supposed 'split' between political
economy approaches and the approaches of cultural studies that I will raise
once I have time. I see no split, the approaches of cultural studies defer
to the specialism of political economy and also embrace the historical
relevance of political economy approaches while rejecting their inability
to cope with the complexity of contemporary culture, in particular with
respect to gender and to ethnicity.



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