Lachlan Brown on Mon, 22 Apr 2002 04:05:02 +0200 (CEST)

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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> The Economist: The Internet sells its soul

There are a number of technical utility (ISP)
providers who take a long term view over
the security of digital properties as well
as compliance over existing and expected
laws and regulatory frameworks, with well
advised policies on social inclusion, the
refusal of content that denigrates rights.

There are also a number of legal firms
advanced in their understanding of ethical
and legal problems likely to arise, and
knowledgeable about digital compyright law,
and its enforcement.

There are also a number of promotion and marketing companies
skilled in the methods of cynical reason 
and knowledgeable about the new networks.

There are quite a few people and collectives making brilliant work and content.

There are tens of millions of people with network access internationally.

There's just an appalling culture of scholarship and of curation. (timid, pliant 
and compromised people).

New people needed in both areas.

I'll shortly be completing my 'Unmarked 
Graveof History - Unmade Bed of Culture' 
work and will get back to Internet stuff.

If anyone would like to know more about the first two items above, get in touch.


Lachlan Brown
(416) 826 6937
(416) 822 1123

>Anyone else? Please, if you want to assist lists now hosted
on Yahoo!, let me know. The best would be if list owners
are 'matched' with the server which is close to their activities,
either thematically or geographically, or affinitywise. In case
you wonder, this call is not for 'free' services. Some
independent servers ask a small fee, but I never heard that
such fees were a big problem. In case people do not like
financial administration, such fees can also be paid once
a year or even every two years. Ted is right that moving
a list is delicated and complicated affair, but that should 
not stop anyone from making the move. The agressive adds
underneath each Yahoo! posting have really become
huge lately. Reason enough to go and look for an
interesting sparing partner--or start a mail server yourself.


From: "Architexturez." <>
To: "'geert'" <>
Subject: your Yahoo! suggestion on Nettime

Hi, Geert, I just read your post on <nettime> The Economist: The
Internet sells its soul

You say:

" Maybe we post a list of servers, ready to receive former Yahoo! groups
and make a wider public announcement, showing that there are viable
alternatives to Yahoo!"

yes! Certainly, will host every architecture and
spatiality related list that needs to defect from Yahoo! Or any of the
commercial services.

Architexturez is a free, "open" (inasmuch as one can be) community of
architecture and related studies.

Be sure to include us in case you ever publish a list. We'd do the rest.


Anand Bhatt. For Architexturez.

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