Lachlan Brown on Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:59:02 +0100 (CET)

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[Nettime-bold] Re: the degree zero of Nettime


Thank you for sharing your chapter and for marketing yourself, your forthcoming book, your University and your prospective publisher Verso in the Nettime mailinglist. Moderators might consider the value to you, your university and the publisher Verso of this marketing and invoice all three. 

>MW: An excellent paper, about which i have mixed feelings, because as i read
it i seem to find among your original insights some of my own ideas and
formulations, unacknowledged. Am i imagining this?

>TT: yes, i understand the difficulty that you talk about... because what I do
rides a lot on top of the fruits of the collective production of knowledge
that happens in the lists and on the sites, which in its turn is mixed up
with all kinds of material from the collective work of academic knowledge.
Tiziana, Thank you for this statement. It highlights a need for
thought concerning the ‘more scholarly approach’ you intimate in your paper.

>TT But again, if you or anybody else have any suggestions about negotiating the
authorship/collectivity problem other than making it very clear that it is
not an analysis of but a conversation with, and referencing all postings so
that people might look them up themselves, any such suggestion would be

The authorship/collectivity 'problem' is easily
resolved. You might arrange a contract to identify and to pay the collectivity the advance on royalty
as well as all royalty accruing from the sale of the book… You might also 
arrange a similar contract with your employer for your salary to go to the collectivity.

I have a few questions concerning a supposed ‘split’ between political economy approaches
and the approaches of cultural studies that I will raise once I have time. I see no split, the approaches of cultural studies
defer to the specialism of political economy and also embrace the historical relevance of political economy approaches while
rejecting their inability to cope with the complexity of contemporary culture, in particular with 
respect to gender and to ethnicity.



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