robert adrian on 19 Mar 2001 13:09:02 -0000

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[Nettime-bold] Re: Carl Loeffler (was: net art history)

Hi Robin

>I'm beginning to think I imagined his death. I know I read an obit
>somewhere, probably Wired News, but searches have brought no mention.

Yeh ... was in NYC last week (sorry I didn't get a chance to visit
the Thing office) and asked a few people about Carl ... nobody knew
more than that they'd heard he'd died. Now that I think about it,
they were all probably Nettime readers and had read your report -

In the meantime I'm trying to find Fred Truck - an artist/programmer,
based in Des Moines, who worked with Carl setting up ArtCom on the Well
in '86. I know they worked together on other projects so maybe he knows
something ... if I can find him.

>There's not much from him past 1996. If my report of his death was
>exaggerated I apologize. Even if that is the case it's still strange that
>so many people don't know what happened to him. He was still running the
> newsgroup and teaching (I think) at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh
>around 1993.

Carl started with La Mamelle, an important artist-run centre in SF
that eventually became ArtCom. ArtCom was also a publication that then
went disgital as ACEN (ArtCom Electronic Network) on the Well.

Carl and La Mamelle organised the "Artists' Use of Telecommunications
Conference" at the SF MoMA in 1980. (Bill Bartlett did the network)

I last saw him in Vienna in about '93 when he presented a VR spectacle
in a festival. He said at the time that he was leaving CMU and planning
to move to Norway ??? No word since ...


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