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art is a religion scott http://www.powerbul.com le 30/11/00 20:45, Nicholas Hermann à NHerman@hga.com a écrit : > > >>>> "(((o)))" <leegte@xs4all.nl> 11/30/00 11:43AM >>> > you approach religion at it's politic and economic side? > is that it's core? > > Religion is one manifestation of media. I call it a system of media > control. Politics and economics are also media. I call them systems of > media control. > At the core of religion is the ineffable union of history and > cognition; the worldly shadows of religion are delusions like church, > nation, hierarchy, museum, expertise, indulgences. > > ( >> [[when religion]] >> [[is]] >> [[compromised]] >> [[as]] >> [[income]] > ) > are these worldly shadows of religion not delusional? > ( >> [[is it still ]] >> [[religion?]] > ) > > what do you want out of religion, > > curious, > > leegte. > > Max replies: > > I want out of religion. I want to become. I want everything to > become. I want to blast religion out of the continuum of history into > the jetztzeit just like nn does. > > "Religion forgets that it owes its own existence to the tragic > estrangement of man (sic) from his true being. It forgets its own > emergency character." > > --Paul Tillich, Theology of Culture, p.9, as quoted in the Genius 2000 > Video First Edition. > http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/Transcripts.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicholas Hermann" <NHerman@hga.com> > To: <list@rhizome.org>; <leegte@xs4all.nl> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: <> art money, income, etc. > > >> ++++ >> >> Genius 2000 started with talents, small papers I sent to people. > Later >> I had people read or react to these talents on tape. Lesson Two has > a >> nice green and gray color scheme like money; Contribution One is >> christmas colors (98), Lesson one is black and white. I sent them > to >> lots of people, like Tome Sherman and Cary Peppermint. They didn't > get >> it. The economics of Genius 2000 are superlative. >> >> I don't claim to have the answer; lee and jef have it but may not > know >> it. Genius 2000 does have it if only people would get together and >> discuss it. Even for a few minutes. >> >> Jay Fenello (at Fenello.com) asked me after seeing the First Edition >> "what are those little pieces of paper? Where did they come from? > What >> is their significance?" Jef and Lee are onto the answers. >> >> I also expanded the talent concept into tickets, which I throw here > and >> there as the case may be. David Ross doesn't like this topic > though, >> and he's on the board of Rhizome, so don't expect to leave the >> underground. >> >> I'm listening, >> >> Max Herman >> http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/lessontwo.JPG >> >>>>> "(((o)))" <leegte@xs4all.nl> 11/30/00 05:40AM >>> >> >> >> [[when art]] >> [[is]] >> [[compromised]] >> [[as]] >> [[income]] >> [[is it still ]] >> [[art?]] >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> when art >>>> is >>>> no longer >>>> perceived >>>> as >>>> an income >>>> is it still >>>> art? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *.jef >>>> http://www.snarg.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> + used or abuseD? >>>> -> Rhizome.org >>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org >>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org >>>> -> unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/unsubscribe/ >>>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support >>>> + >>>> Subscribers to Rhizome Raw are subject to the terms set out in > the >>>> Subscriber Agreement available online at >> http://rhizome.org/subscribe/ >>>> >>> >> >> + used or abuseD? >> -> Rhizome.org >> -> post: list@rhizome.org >> -> questions: info@rhizome.org >> -> unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/unsubscribe/ >> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support >> + >> Subscribers to Rhizome Raw are subject to the terms set out in the >> Subscriber Agreement available online at > http://rhizome.org/subscribe/ >> > > + /because you're spamming a net.art list! > -> Rhizome.org > -> post: list@rhizome.org > -> questions: info@rhizome.org > -> unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/unsubscribe/ > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support > + > Subscribers to Rhizome Raw are subject to the terms set out in the > Subscriber Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/subscribe/ > _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold