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[Nettime-bold] NameSpace (get.xs2.net) banned from mail delivery
Title: NameSpace (get.xs2.net) banned from mail
[I just discovered this after trying to send a mail to a friend
(his actual mail-address is at Humboldt University Berlin, obviously
subscribed to this "service"):
<<< 550 Mail from 22.214.171.124 rejected; inform
your mail provider or see
554 <firstname.lastname@example.org>... Service
Reporting-MTA: dns; get.xs2.net
Arrival-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 02:16:10 -0400
If you are an end-user, and have received a bounce message telling
you to refer to the RBL for more information, please be aware that
the ISP or site that you are sending to will not accept your mail.
They have voluntarily subscribed to the MAPS Realtime Blackhole List.
This list is composed of IP addresses that are known to have
generated SPAM or Unsolicited Commercial Email, or provide SPAM
support services. More information about the project, and what it
does, is available. Note that the RBL does not, in any way, affect a
user's email address, or DNS name. Only the IP address of the machine
Please contact your local administrator, or ISP technical support
center, and refer them to http://mail-abuse.org. We will be happy to
assist them in getting their IP address off the RBL. This usually is
as simple as installing a software update to the mail software on
your server. You, as an end user, have not been singled out in any
Copies of mail that prompted inclusion on the Blackhole list can be
found by following the links for the blackholed addresses below.
If you would like to learn how to get your IP address removed from
the list, please send email, or call +1 650 779-7002.
126.96.36.199 Sun Apr 16
08:37:11 2000 PDT
Sat Apr 15 18:27:34 2000
Subject: Re: please remove our server from your list!
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:29:24 -0500
From: Al Iverson <email@example.com>
To: NameSpace Admin <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> We choose to
> operate an open relay
That's perfectly fine. That's your choice. We also have our own
Our choice is to list your server on our list because you choose to
an open relay even after spam has routed through it. It would seem
no further discussion on this issue is possible.
Because you are readily indicating your unwillingness to address
spam relay problem, please note that I'm going to nominate your
to the MAPS RBL. More information about the MAPS RBL is available at
NameSpace Admin wrote:
> Your "service" has listed our server 188.8.131.52
> in your "spam abuse" list.
> Your extortive demand that we close down our
> "spam" relay is over-reaching. We choose to
> operate an open relay and have done so for
> years, for the convenience of our mobile
> clients who wish to use it. There has only
> been, to my knowledge, ONE incident of abuse
> in all of that time, possibly by a malicious
> party whose aim it was to get our server banned.
> The offending addresses related to the sender
> of the abusing mail has been black-holed on our
> firewall and all messages have been removed from
> our queue. They have also been reported to their
> upstream providers. That is OUR job to do so,
> NOT YOURS!
> We have a strict anti-spam policy and respond
> as quickly as practical to any incident. We do
> not believe, however that one incident justifies
> curtailing services for our many legitimate and
> responsible users, ESPECIALLY BY YOU!
> While it may be that the current laws do not
> recognize ISPs as common carriers, the laws do
> not give you the authority to extort any ISPs
> or others to comply with YOUR preference for
> setting up servers. Your list is a disservice
> to all since it publishes open relays so that
> people can ABUSE them. You are not helping
> anything by your practices, and you are harming
> many legitimate users of open relays.
> Remove us from your list immediately! And DO
> NOT tell us how to run our services!
Nettime-bold mailing list
> Name.Space Admin
Iverson Mail Abuse Prevention System, LLC
Wed Apr 12 09:00:12 2000
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