Re: <nettime> nettime-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 14

[Francis Nowak via nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org>]

There's also an organized kind of intimidation, practiced and taught at
university, where how 'timid' you should be before choosing a topic or
making a statement is mapped exactly to the hierarchy - and only people
high up in the pile are allowed to do anything except work that resembles a
very small sub-entry in some giant imaginary encyclopedia (with titles
like, ' Determination of ignition temperature of municipal solid waste for
understanding surface and sub-surface landfill fire', and so on).

Then, there's the experience of logging on to some well-established forum
or network, being the 'FNG', and getting some kind of hazing, as a sort of
expression of innate conservatism baked into a really hard, irradiated form
by the unforgiving waves of online trolling.

I guess the last kind of intimidation is a sort of machine-intimidation,
where you get relentlessly blocked and banned from whatever platform you
are on, because you're in a statistical blob on the billion-dimensional
plot of user profiles that happens to give the hegemonic politics
coniptions.

I think I like the first two more than the last.

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> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 12:46:49 +0100
> From: Christian Pietsch <kabelsalat@mailbox.org>
> To: nettime-l@lists.nettime.org
> Subject: <nettime> How to exclude posts from archiving (with solution)
>         / was: Nettime Listening Post
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> Dear nettimers,
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> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 09:47:06AM +0100, Christian Swertz via nettime-l
> wrote:
> > > One thing that is missing from David's recap was an aspect raised about
> > > the intimidation factors ( also related to the Silence themes of late
> ),
> >
> > Do you assume that the nettime-l archive is an intimidation factor and
> thus
> > prohibits people to post unusual or provocative ideas since they could be
> > attacked for that later with reference to the archive? As far as I see,
> this
> > cannot be denied. Even if the archive itself is certainly not the crucial
> > problem (all subscribers get all the mails anyway), this could be the
> > expression of a larger social problem. And I fully agree that this
> problem
> > is obviously connected to power dynamics.
>
> Perhaps this is a good opportunity to remind everyone that e-mail
> authors can indeed deny archiving by including the e-mail header
> ?X-No-Archive: Yes? [1]. Hardly anyone knows this, and even fewer
> people know how to accomplish this, but there is help [2, 3]. This
> mailing list runs on Mailman, a software that honours this header.
>
> Younger people in particular seem to enjoy the concept of
> self-destructing messages. Technically, this is often just fiction
> because these messages are never really deleted and get included in
> backups anyway. However, it's a fact that people use this feature. It
> has been built into Mastodon, too. Users of our instance find it here
> [4]. It's quite a sophisticated implementation that can be configured
> to keep toots matching certain conditions such as popularity.
>
> I realise that when people call Nettime intimidating, they probably
> refer to more than just technical aspects. The sheer length of posts
> can be overwhelming, as has been observed before. I am sure it has
> been brought up that having time to read lenghty e-mails is quite a
> privilege. Let alone responding to them in writing. For instance, I
> currently do not have an academic job but a technical one, and this
> means that I have to finish this e-mail before my lunch break is over.
> The fact that some members have academic titles might be intimidating,
> too.
>
> Cheers,
> C:
>
> References
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> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-No-Archive
> [2] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Custom_headers
> [3]
> https://www.lifewire.com/arbitrary-custom-heading-email-thunderbird-1173089
> [4] https://tldr.nettime.org/statuses_cleanup
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> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 22:11:23 +0100
> From: Geert Lovink <geert@xs4all.nl>
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> Subject: Re: <nettime> 24hr UKRAiNATV Live Stream Today to Commemorate
>         Two Years of Full-Scale War
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> and here the temp. file on twitch of the 25hr URKAiNATV webcast from
> Krakow, Kyiv, Budapest and Amsterdam:
> https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2071725623
>
> > On 24 Feb 2024, at 10:31 am, Geert Lovink via nettime-l <
> nettime-l@lists.nettime.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear nettimers, you?re all welcome to join today:
> >
> > HYBRID TOGETHERNESS: MAKING BREAD
> >
> > ? live webcasting from Krakow and Kyiv?
> >
> > LIVE WEBSITE TODAY: https://ukrainatv.streamart.studio/  LINKTREE:
> https://linktr.ee/ukrainatv
> >
> > (with INC/VOID live contribution from Amsterdam between 2.30-3.30PM CET,
> plus premiere: live stream from the Budapest/Intermedia Dept.)
> >
> > Nice to meet you, where have you been?
> >
> > I could show you incredible things
> >
> > Magic, madness, heaven, sin
> >
> > Saw you there and I thought?
> >
> > This is an announcement and open call
> >
> > We call for your attention, solidarity, access, and a new beginning
> >
> > This is a call about ?V? (with double dots above) ? Victory, Vitality,
> Vojna! We reclaim the symbol ?V? from the Russian army; it?s also about
> Vesna, Vagina, or Video x audio experimental stream-art hybrid
> togetherness? More life, more hope, more research, more energy (green and
> pink ones)? And a new, FIFTH (V!) season of UKRAiNATV is born.
> >
> > As well as the European Stream Art Network emerging around us.
> >
> > Stay tuned, stay with us, SLAY with Ukraine!
> >
> > * * *
> >
> > 24.02.24 marks the second anniversary of the outbreak of full-scale war
> in Ukraine. The demons of war ravage our bodies, minds, memories, and daily
> lives. But we do not succumb to mourning; we stride pinkly towards green!
> We blend narratives, languages, signals, and colours. We bake bread from
> Ukrainian and Polish flour despite divisions, borders, and particular,
> selfish interests. Once again, we create an open community, to which we
> invite?
> >
> > WE INVITE you to OUR new-born STREAM-ART NETWORK of inter-connected
> studios and activities in KRAKOW, BUDAPEST, KYIV and AMSTERDAM?
> >
> > WE INVITE you to the StreamArtStudio/UKRAiNATV in Krakow at 23A Berka
> Joselewicza.
> >
> > We have a RICH program of concerts, live acts, performances,
> discussions, and workshop activities for you. And also ? simply ? a safe
> space to spend this time together connecting with Kyiv, Amsterdam,
> Budapest, Lviv, New York, Trondheim, Shostka, Pozna?, Warsaw, and other
> places?
> >
> > WE INVITE you to the open VIDEO NINJA channel: where you can join
> actively, dialogically?
> >
> > WE INVITE you to all OUR and OUR PARTNERS? channels on Twitch, yt, fb,
> ig, and on our new website (see QR code with all links)
> >
> > WE INVITE you to contribute to the fundraiser:
> https://pomoc.pl/ukrainatv
> >
> > Partners: INC/VOID Amsterdam, ASP KRK, Fundacja 36,6, Galeria Opcja,
> Intermedia dept. @Hungarian University of Art, Collider / Carbon Community
> Kyiv, Hello Tekno Kyiv.
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