Morlock Elloi on Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:13:09 +0100 (CET)


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Re: <nettime> Foundations for "Anthropocene Socialist" Movement


The problem is that this doesn't scale. Or at least the scaling model has not been discovered. At the same time, the opposition scales pretty well.

For this scaling to involve machines (computers, programs, networks and such, and I cannot imagine competitive scaling not involving machines - anyone?) another problem has to be solved, as the current crop of the available computing machinery is heavily biased towards individualistic outcomes. The redesign would be a major effort, as it definitely does not consist of another 'app'. It involves interventions at the infrastructure level, and there are $ trillions already invested in the current one, so it's hard.

How do you motivate open door crappers to lay own fiber, grow own silicon and use only P2P protocols with source routing? It's hard to even imagine this.


On 12/30/18, 04:53, Keith Hart wrote:
When I grew up in Manchester after the war, solidarity was a powerful
weapon against privacy, the cult of being exclusive. We could not close
our house doors since neighbors should be free to come and go as they
please. When the men took their morning crap in the outside loos, they
left the door open to converse across the low backyard walls. After
sanitation was modernized, you could still  accidentally run into a old
lady in the bathroom who couldn't bring herself to close the door. All
bedroom doors were left open. The corner pub was our living room. When
the gas company started work with their machines outside too early, half
a dozen women would assail them on behalf of   "our street". They shut
down the machines.
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